Topic: Songwriting Template Exercise
Session Start: Sat Jul 08 15:24:54 2000
<Luci> Ok, Dale picked "We Worship You"
<Liane> ok I guess I have the first line... the first line in the song
template says "Here in this setting" so I have to describe a setting
<Liane> vs 1, line 1: Walking along the beach
<Liane> ok Josh, you have the next line in the exercise
<Liane> the 2nd line in the template says: "in this frame of mind"
so you have to continue the song.. keep it in context.... and describe your
frame of mind
<Liane> remember you are walking along a beach
<joshw> ok
<joshw> kinda hard to write a song that way.....but ok....
<joshw> lol
<Liane> thats what exercises are like
<Liane> thats the point
<Liane> your muscles don't get stronger unless you make them lift something
heavy
<joshw> true....
<Liane> besides... exercises in here are always a lot of fun
<joshw> ok so we got "walking along the beach"
<Liane> and the name of the song is "We Worship You" so the point of
the whole song has to do with that
<joshw> "...(standing) in awe of your creation" or "in awe of all You
have made"
<DaleB> we can go back and fine tune later
<Liane> which one.. cause line 4 has to rhyme with whatever you come
up with
<Liane> I like that last one
<joshw> no it doesn't...not really
<Liane> yes it does... its a rule for this exercise
<Liane> Luci ready? It's your turn
<Liane> your template line is "Doing this stuff"
* Luci thinks...
<Liane> oh and it has to have the same number of syllables as line
1
<Liane> 6 syllables
<Luci> running away from the crabs that are pinching our toes? ;)
<Luci> No..
<joshw> lol
<Liane> remember its a worship song too lol
<Luci> Ok ok...
<Liane> Walking along the beach...... in awe of all You have made
<Luci> I have line 3?
<Liane> yep
<Luci> Enjoying time with You
<Liane> cool
<Luci> Can this be a head banging worship song?
<joshw> i think it's gonna sound like it by the time we're done
<Luci> josh, give me time...
<DaleB> like we were banging our heads against the wall trying to make
this work?
<Liane> LOL Dale!
<Raven> lol
<Liane> ok Raven
<Raven> I am trying to figure out what you are doing
<Liane> the song so far is:
<joshw> we are writing a song...
<Liane> "We Worship You" vs 1 - Walking along the beach / in awe of
all you have made / enjoying time with you
<Liane> your job Raven.. is to write line 4 for vs 1... the rules are:
<Liane> it must follow what we've got so far.... it's a worship song
so keep that in mind.. it must rhyme with line 2 (made).. and it must have
7 syllables
<Liane> we're following a song template... the line for vs 1 line 4
is "Here's what I want you to know" ... so that's basically what your line
has to say
<DaleB> this is a complicated exercise
<Liane> just make it rhyme with 'made'.. have 7 syllables, and have
to do with 'we worship you'
<Liane> your line must connect the previous 3 lines with the chorus
coming up
<Liane> which will be about 'we worship you'
<Liane> lol sorry you'll get it Dale
<Raven> hmm
<Liane> its what we've already done before.. now we're just each doing
one line at a time
<Liane> ok think of worshipping Him... and think of rhymes for 'made'
<Raven> I am sorry...I cannot for the life of me figure out what you
are wanting for line 4...
<joshw> Line 4: "Here's what I want you to know"
<Luci> liane, what are the first three lines?
<Liane> you have to come up with something for line 4 that says to
the Lord "here's what I want you to know" but stated in your own way
<Liane> how about 'stay' for a near rhyme with 'made'?
<Liane> you could talk about all we want to do is stay or something
like that
<Raven> made, shade, layed..hmmm
<Liane> that's not exactly saying 'here's what I want you to know'
but I think its close
<Liane> hey thats 7 syllables too!
<Raven> displayed
<Liane> oh and remember to keep the song a 'we' song.. never say 'I'
when the title has 'we'
<Raven> the glory shown and displayed?
<Liane> Walking along the beach.... in awe of all You have made....
enjoying time with you.... the glory shown and displayed?
<joshw> so we are all walking along the beach in a big group or what?
<joshw> lol
<Liane> yeah I guess Josh! LOL
<Liane> sounds cool to me
<DaleB> :-)
* Luci pushes Dale in the water
<joshw> maybe it should be I Worship You
<DaleB> Watch out!!!
<joshw> but that ones taken, eh
<Liane> too late :-) Dale said "we"
<joshw> ok....
<Liane> I like to make it tough hehehe
<Luci> SHARK!!!
<joshw> lol
<DaleB> I said we since it's a group project
<Liane> is that our line 4 then? "the glory shown and displayed"?
<Liane> does it work with the other 3 lines?
<Liane> Walking along the beach.... in awe of all You have made....
enjoying time with you.... the glory shown and displayed?
<Luci> How about Appreciate the days
<Liane> YOUr glory shown and displayed?
<Raven> when I am marveling at His creations...I am in awe...and I
marvel at what he has done...his glory shining in all I see
<Liane> Raven?
<joshw> my line should be "in awe of all You've made" for syllable
accuracy
<Luci> the glory would be a good 2nd liner
<Liane> no its ok josh
<joshw> but why?! :)
<Liane> line 1: 6 syllables.. line 2: 7.. line 3 6... line 4 7
<Liane> its turning out to be a 6, 7, 6, 7 verse
<Luci> that is ok.. as long as it's even
<Liane> all 4 lines don't have to be the same
<joshw> k
<Liane> but the last two should match the first two
<Liane> and the 2nd verse should match the first
<joshw> i think "your glory shown and displayed would be better"
<Liane> ok then
<DaleB> I agree for continuity..but does that fit the template?
<Liane> ooh! forgot about the template again!!!
* DaleB goes for a swim
<Luci> JELLYFISH!!
<joshw> here is what i want you to know....??
* DaleB jumps back out and tosses Luci in
<Liane> well the point of the 4th line is to lead into he chorus..
and since the title is We Worship You, I think it does this
<Liane> vote for keeping it?
<Raven> "here's what I want you to know" template....
<joshw> all right you two...stay out of the water!
<Raven> noticing glory and what he has done...
<Liane> votes?
<Luci> AAAHHH!!!
<joshw> *thinking.....
<DaleB> ok...we keep it
<Liane> I just think it would lead so nicely into "We Worship You"
<Liane> ok..
<Raven> because if you think about it...how many people take the time
to actually "smell the roses" so-to-speak
<Liane> the template states the title as the first line of the chorus..
so that's a given
<Liane> so now it's Roy's turn to rewrite "This is how much"
<Liane> Roy? how much do we worship Him????
<Liane> that will be your line in the chorus
<Liane> ok I think Roy is busy
<Liane> Dale?
<joshw> yeah...dale?
<DaleB> ok...ok
<Liane> Dale?
<joshw> :)
<Liane> lol
<DaleB> I'm thinking!
<DaleB> leave me alone
<Liane> ooh ok... so long as we know that!
<joshw> "how much" we worship you...lol
<DaleB> "with all our hearts and souls"
<Liane> ok my template line is 'this is how long we'll feel this way'
<Liane> ok I'm thinking now
<kiwi> can you explain what you are doing please?
<Liane> got a good one guys! "longer than forever"
<DaleB> a song writing exercise
<Liane> kiwi we're following a template and we're writing a worship
song
<kiwi> I know it is.....but I can't quite follow what you are doing?
<kiwi> a template?
<Liane> ok josh.. your template line is "this is how it feels"... tell
the Lord how it feels to worship Him
<Tattooed> yeah, I wish I woulda caught the beginning of all this
<kiwi> I normally just write them on my own
<Liane> kiwi... a sort of guide
<Liane> yes we're just doing this as an exercise.. for fun
<kiwi> ok
* Liane assumes Josh is thinking
<Liane> for the newcomers here's what we have so far:
<Liane> "We Worship You" vs 1: Walking along the beach / in awe of
all you have made / enjoying time with you / your glory shown and displayed.
ch: We worship you / with all our hearts and souls / longer than forever
<Liane> each line was written by a different person
<kiwi> thanks
<Luci> I'd repeat the first line twice
<Liane> the template doesn't
<Luci> at the end of the chorus
<Liane> the template repeats it once again at the end of the chorus
lol Luci
<Luci> wow, I rock then!
* DaleB falls over laughing
<Liane> yeah you had the same idea as a very successful songwriter
then Lu
<Raven> lol
<DaleB> pleah! got sand in my mouth
<Liane> lol
<Luci> HAHAHA DALE!!
* Luci points and laughs
<Luci> in your nostrils too
* DaleB gives Lu a shove
<Liane> you can tell you are a creative bunch.. just look at those
imaginations.. it almost seems like you really think you're at a beach! LOL
* Luci whips out the cattleprod
<Luci> *zzzt*
<Liane> Josh?
* DaleB hides behind Liane
<DaleB> Ha! missed me!
<Luci> I won't next time
<Liane> ouch
<Liane> if Dale is hiding behind me and luci missed Dale... then I
guess I got whipped
<Liane> Josh??????
<DaleB> no..shocked!
<Luci> nah, I just zapped for effect
<Liane> (didn't know what a cattleprod was)
<curiodrummer> hi all
<Liane> JOSH?????
<curiodrummer> bbs
* Liane assumes Josh is away from the chat room and might not even know we've
been waiting for him to write the next line
<Luci> ok, is this line #1, vs2?
<Liane> no its still the chorus
<kiwi> ok.... me?
<Liane> its template line "this is how it feels"
<Liane> you have to tell the Lord how it makes us feel to worship Him
<Liane> sure go ahead kiwi
<kiwi> washed by your grace
<Liane> it has to say how we feel
<joshw> ok back...oops
<Liane> the chorus so far: We worship you / with all our hearts and
souls / longer than forever
<kiwi> k..... my spirit soars with wonder
<DaleB> does it have to rhyme with souls?
<Liane> kiwi your line has to answer the question "how does it make
us feel to worship the Lord"
<Liane> ooh ok thats a good one -- didn't see it until
I sent out my explanation
<kiwi> ok
<Liane> no Dale
<Luci> if it has to rhyme, the "My wondering spirit soars"
<Luci> buuuut, since it doesn't...
<Liane> I just changed it to 'our' since the name of the song is WE
worship You
<Liane> ok Josh ready now?
* Luci tosses starfish at dale
<kiwi> yes...forgot sorry
* Liane wonders if Josh is ready now for his missed turn?
<Liane> ok Josh is missing in action again
<joshw> lol
<joshw> no i'm here
<joshw> kinda
<Liane> OOH!
<Luci> No he's not!
<Liane> Josh take your turn now!
<joshw> ok ok
<Liane> the next template line is "so in case you're wondering"...
but keep in mind we're writing this to the Lord and He wouldn't wonder so
try to work around that... AND you must rhyme with forever
<Liane> did ya get that Josh?
<joshw> lemme go up and see what we have so far....
<joshw> maybe someone should fill me in on the chorus so far...
<joshw> i'm no sure about the last line....
<Liane> the chorus so far: We worship you / with all our hearts and
souls / longer than forever / my spirit soars with wonder
<Luci> WAIT...
<joshw> that doesn't reeeeally make sense
<Luci> error.. we can't have "We worship you" then later have "My spirit"
<Liane> oh
<DaleB> our spirits soar?
<joshw> do we worship him, longer than forever, or, do our spirits
soar with wonder longer than forever?
<Luci> It can be changed to I worship You
<Liane> the chorus so far: We worship you / with all our hearts and
souls / longer than forever / our spirits soar with wonder
<kiwi> yes we changed it to our
<Liane> we worship Him longer than forever
<Luci> ok, looks better
<joshw> hmm...that's up to interpretaion....
<joshw> but ok...
<Liane> the last line written was kiwi's... kiwi do you think it makes
sense? I know you came in the middle of this
<Luci> No, I think the questionable line is "Longer than forever"
<Liane> why?
<joshw> well...the line that doesn't make sense is longer than
forever....not that it's not a good line,
<Liane>obviously its not literal
<joshw>it's just not in the right spot i think
<Liane>that would be impossible
<Luci>that's a philosophical no-go
<Luci>it's been determined that there is nothing longer than eternity,
so it doesn't make logical sense
<Liane>its like saying.... if there was anything longer than forever
then we'd worship you that long
<DaleB>God is longer than eternity
<DaleB>he created time
<kiwi>God is eternity
* Luci stomps on her philosophy books...
<Liane>true Dale
<Liane>chill Lu
<DaleB>LOL
<Liane>:)
<Liane>ok so how we gonna fix this? does kiwi's line flow with the
previous lines?
<kiwi>you have a beach theme too...
<Luci>Kiwi's line works, it's the second one that has to go
<Liane>the thing thats supposed to make this exercise fun is that the
next person to write a line has to write it according to what has already
been written so far
<kiwi>it was......look at the first line
<joshw>what about "from now until forever" ???
<joshw>huh?
Liane>I think longer than forever is more passionate
<Luci>hmm...
* Luci examines the possibilities
<joshw>but what's longer than forever?
* Liane thanks Luci
<Luci>I like from now until forever
<joshw>there's no such thing?
<Liane>thats the point though Josh
<Liane>its not literal..
<Liane>its an expression... a passionate expression
<joshw>ok,if you say so....
<Luci>but even figurative, it doesn't work
<joshw>passionate, yes,but impossible, unrealistic
* Liane tries to think of examples that people already use
<Liane>who says it has to be realistic?
*** Luci is now known as Spock
<Spock>I do
<Liane>this is FUN
<joshw>hello spock?
* Spock raises eyebrow
<joshw>lol
*** Spock is now known as Luci
<Luci>heheh
<kiwi>Laughs Out Loud
<Liane>not an entrance exam into Songwriting University
<Luci>Li, if you want it to speak, it should be on a level that is
associable
<joshw>well if i was going to sing a song to God, yes, i would want
it to be passionate...but shouldn't it make sense too>?
<Liane>ok what does associable mean?
<Luci>people will wonder about that one line
<Luci>it should associate
<Liane>it makes sense to me... is it that hard to understand for others?
<joshw>i hope i'm not offending anyone, or coming on too strong
<Luci>josh, nah
<Liane>no I'm not offended.. trying to understand but in a light sort
of way
<Luci>I understand what it means as well, but it makes me want to correct
it
<Liane>I know what you mean Lu
* Luci has to go in a few
<Liane>but 'from now until forever' has been overly done before
<joshw>yes true
<Luci>then redo the whole line
<Luci>don't re-work it, re-do it
<Liane>hmmmm
<joshw>but so has the whole song for that matter....kinda...
<Liane>it still has to tell how long we will worship Him
<joshw><eek>
<Luci>from "x"time to the end
<Liane>I got it!!!!
<Liane>"for all the time you've made"
<Liane>although that creates another 'made' rhyme
<Liane>but at this point.. who cares about that ! LOL
<Liane>ok Josh
<Liane>the chorus so far now is:
* Luci begins to tippy toe out now...
<Liane>We worship you / with all our hearts and souls / for all the
time you've made / our spirits soar with wonder
<sdcmadwi>Hi all, just poking my head in for a moment
<Liane>Hi Steve.. we're communally writing a song
<Luci>see ya's later, let me know how it all ends
<Liane>I'll have it online Lu
<Luci>ok, cool...
<joshw>at the beach.....apparently
<Liane>Josh your template line is "so in case you're wondering" (obviously
you'll have to bend the rules a bit on this line :)
<joshw> :)
<Liane>and rhyme with made
<Luci>ok, rock on kids, I'm gone
<Liane>got that Josh?
<DaleB> 'bout time for me to hit it too
<joshw> <-thinking
<Liane>haha ok
<DaleB>this is taking too long :-)
* joshw thinking
<DaleB>bye everyone
<sdcmadwi>Bye Dale
<joshw>i don't think rhyming with made would work very well....?
<Liane>just do your best josh
<joshw>it would seem to work better to do something else to lead into
the last line....if you know what i mean
<Liane>its just a fun exercise.. doesn't have to be perfect
<joshw>the last line will be something to the effect of "i worship
you" right?
<Liane>'this is why we've stayed' would be a good line
<Liane>just needs more syllables
<Liane>one more
<Liane>then the last line is We Worship You.. yes
<joshw>nothing in this life, i would trade.....
<Liane>WE
<joshw>yes we
<joshw>:)
<joshw>theres nothing in this life we would trade....
<joshw>to worship you...
<joshw>i dunno
<joshw>!
<Liane>way too many syllables but at this point thats ok :)
<kiwi>in your presence all else fades?
<Liane>how about:
<Liane>We worship you
<Liane>with all our hearts & souls
<Liane>for all the time you've made
<Liane>our spirits soar with wonder
<Liane>so this is why we've stayed
<Liane>we worship you.
<Liane>?
<sdcmadwi>Your power is displayed?
<Liane>ok
<joshw>hmm
<Liane>I like that one
<Liane>ok
<Liane>vs 2
<Luci> ehh, Daves still at work
<Liane>we finally finished the ch
<kiwi>as your power is displayed?
<Liane>yeah
<Luci>whoo!
* Luci attacks Dale
<Liane>Dale is gone
<Liane>ok vs 2
<Luci>huh...
<Liane>Luci your turn
<Luci>so he is
<Liane>line one: In the future
<Luci>oh the pressure..
<Luci>hmm...
<sdcmadwi>Well now I gotta run...just had a short time online so we
will catch y'all later
<Liane>Bye for now Steve ! God bless!
<Luci>bye steve
<Liane>here's the whole template for vs 2:
<Luci>in the future, hmm..
<Liane>In the future / if you have any doubts / remember this time
/ and you'll know
<Liane>of coarse we'll have to change line 2
<Liane>God knows all things so He won't have any doubts lol
<Luci>As we reexamine life
<Liane>Just rephrase 'in the future' using fresh imagery
<kiwi>when we stumble and fall covers that doubting bit
<Liane>whoa! kiwi took my turn lol!!!!!
<Liane>now there's anticipation lol
<kiwi>nope.....lol sorry..... retracts it
<Luci>wheheh goooo kiwi!
<Liane>that's ok
<Liane>makes you look excited about this which makes me smile
* kiwi has gotta learn to be quiet....lol
<Liane>ok I've got line 3 then
<kiwi>what was line one?
<Liane>Luci's line one was As we re-examine life
<Liane>it was right after that when you gave line 2
<kiwi>oh ..... *blush*
* Liane thinking
<Luci>As we reexamine life
<Liane>We think of all you've done
<Liane>ok who's next?
<Liane>who wants to do the last line?
<keylime>how do u do this?
<Liane>we're just finishing up key
<keylime>k
<Liane>if I can get someone to do the last line that is lol
<Liane>kiwi? Luci?
<Luci>ok, what's up so far and the temp, please
<Liane>vs 2: As we reexamine life / when we stumble and fall / we think
of all you've done
<Liane>you have to rhyme with fall
<Liane>and the template line says: 'and you'll know'
<Luci>ok... hmm..
<Liane>hard one eh?
<Luci>well, that, and PoD blaring doesn't help :)
<Liane>this exercise was difficult and time consuming
<kiwi>we need to hear your call?
<Liane>it should lead back into 'we worship you
<kiwi>we answer to your call?
<kiwi>ok
<Luci>but even through it all
<Liane>yeah!
<kiwi>yeah
<Liane>ok keylime here's what we did
<Liane>I have a song template here that tells you what to write for
each line of a love song..... we each took turns rewriting each line in our
own words using fresh imagery
<Liane>so one person would write one line and someone else would write
the next line etc
Session Close: Sat Jul 08 17:01:56 2000
"We Worship You"
vs 1
Walking along the beach
in awe of all you've made
enjoying time with you
your glory shown & displayed
ch
We worship you
with all our hearts & souls
for all the time you've made
our spirits soar with wonder
your power is displayed
we worship you
vs 2
as we reexamine life
when we stumble & fall
we think of all you've done
but even through it all
(ch)